Submitted for Town Board Approval – May 8, 2000

 

SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE

TOWN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

And

PARK COMMISSIONERS

Municipal Complex - Assembly Room

Wednesday, March 1, 2000 6:00 p.m.

MINUTES

Agendas with resolutions were posted at the Municipal Complex, Fire Station 40, Sanitary District No. 4, Appleton Public Library, Menasha Public Library, and Neenah Public Library.

I.CALL TO ORDER, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND ROLL CALL

Town Chair Arden Tews called the Special Meeting of the Town Board of Supervisors and Park Commissioners to order at 6:00 p.m. and led the Pledge of Allegiance.

Deputy Clerk Heiting noted the roll as follows:

PRESENT:

Arden Tews, Town Chair & Planning Comm. Jeanne Krueger, Spvr #1 Planning Comm

Jerry Jurgensen, Supervisor #3 Allen Nennig, Supervisor #4

George Dearborn, Dir. of Com. Dev. Mary Heiting, Deputy Clerk

Park & Planning Comm. Roy Kuehn Park Comm. Herb Horn

Park Comm. Glen Allen Park Comm. Theresa Bolwerk

Park Comm. Secretary John Zaborsky Park Comm. President Dick Gawinski

Plan. Comm. Al Bellmer Bogdan "Bob" Vitas, Town Administrator

Grace Vander Velden, Director of Finance Jeff Smith, Assistant Planner

Ron Krueger, Park & Recreation Director

EXCUSED:

Robert Sprague, Supervisor #2 Carlene Sprague, Town Clerk

ALSO PRESENT:

Janet Mulvey Debora Thomson Scott Thomson

Todd Engleman Mike Hersperger Sharon Hersperger

Jayme Brooks Wayne Du Charme Sally Du Charme

Chuck Guy Michael Piper Kate Mc Quilan

Sarah Solle Pat Mc Gee Nora Rohe

Angle Entuisle Jerry O'Ddell Dawn O'Dell

Lynn Wilson Cheryl Barth Kim Berson

Lisa Van Dyke Mike Van Dyke Katy Van Dyke

Min Van Dyke Nikki Van Dyke Diane Miller

Norman Miller Wally Prahl Juanita Prahl

Larry Mulvey Lee Schwandt Dolores Lynch

Hugh Richard Dianne Gehrt Mike Barth

Tom Fahrenkrug Carrie Seubert Tom Mangin

Larry Bender Jerry Sitor Pat Mc Quillan

Barbara Heeter John Schaidler Tom Mc Gee

Ali Holtz Mike Holtz Barry Phillips

Cindy Phillips Chuck Keuhn

II. Discussion

5 Year Park Plan - Review and Discussion

Chairman Tews opened the meeting and reviewed the Town of Menasha's request to rezone a portion of property across from the Municipal Complex along the east side of CTH CB.

Director of Community Development, George Dearborn explained the how the Town's Comprehensive Plan and Town of Menasha 5 Year Park Plan were prepared together just recently and how they incorporate with each other. The issue that was raised recently was the current acreage in present park acres and the proposed future lands for park use.

The linear trail system should be included when considering "green space" and park acreage.

Administrator Vitas posted maps representing Town areas where parks were designated and a previous (1978) rendition of a plan for the Town property in the future.

Under a review it was calculated that approximately 69.5 acres are on the east side of Little Lake Butte des Morts and 126 acres on the west. There are also 41 acres of designated areas of undeveloped park land for future development.

Kate McQuillan, 916 Jacobsen Road had concerns about the extension of Olde Buggy northward.

Administrator Vitas confirmed that as of March 1, 2000 both offers, subject to approval of the rezoning, were nulified and void. We had until this date for the rezoning and sale of land proposed for commercial and residential development.

Chairman Tews stated that in 1994 at the Annual Meeting, the electors stated the public wanted to use this property for the purpose of a new municipal complex and sell the balance of the land to pay the bills.

Jerry Sittor, 1847 Bridgeview Drive explained how the Town should remain flexible. The changes at that time may no longer be here which were needed in 1994. With the current growth both residential and commercial development should effect our current decision today.

Administrator Vitas reviewed the history of the land starting in 1981. He presented the 1978 East Central Wisconsin Regional Planning Commission map and gave explanations of old aerial photos. He continued with changes on the existing plans with the sale of a portion of Town property for the construction of County Highway CB and removal of the street department building.

Mr. Lynch, 1274 E. Shady Lane stated that he tried to call the Supervisors and years ago they told him that a park was going behind his property along Shady Lane.

Sandy Pollen, 2172 W. Prairie Creek Drive expressed her concerns that with all the taxes she pays, there is still no way for anyone to leave their subdivision either by bike or walking. Why create more parks or develop more park land if there is no safe way for anyone to get to them except driving.

Director Dearborn reminded everyone that the agendas are posted on the Town's web site. The web site address is: [email protected]

Dianne Gehrt stated that when the residents left the meeting for the Town's rezoning application they felt that the rezoning had failed. The Town residents attending that meeting suggested the appropriate use for this area would be park land. How do the residents request this property to be made into a park and what do we have to do?

Chairman Tews stated that the Town Board feels the complete Town should be notified and a possible referendum question would be an option. This would be for the Commission to decide.

Hugh Richards, 1938 Fox Burrow Courts currently works for a utility company and sees the rapid growth in this area alone. He feels this park land should be reserved immediately. When this land is used up, we will never be able to get it back. The nature trails and everything is here. He uses it often. We should have the trails lead to the park.

Mike Barth, 1302 Whippletree Lane stated that it is a dynamic plan, but it can be changed. Let's get a vision and move forth to change it.

Chuck Kuehn, 1331 Orchard Ct stated that he would love to see this area as a park, but maybe a concept should be prepared and advertise what the plans would be.

A Town Resident, 1341 Martingale Lane stated that there are 15,000 people that we are addressing, but how many children and where are they populated? Let's move forward and explain what is needed to make this a park.

Administrator Vitas reviewed how Town government works and how we differ from Villages and Cities. He stated that the Town government has an Annual Meeting where the electorate vote on issues on the agenda. In 1994 the Town people voted to build the municipal complex on the current site and the balance of the land could be sold. There may be a referendum question appearing on the November ballot. We need to educate the public about the project and let them vote on the direction they want the Town Board to follow.

Tom Wilson, 1944 Fox Burrow Court asked if we sell the land what would it be used for?

Al Bellmer, 2579 W. Palisades stated that the Town might not be able to afford all these acres as park property. Maybe the park should be close to the quarry and residential to the south by E. Shady Lane.

Mike Lynch stated that everyone should come to the Annual Meeting in April because here the people can vote on what should be done with this property.

Herb Horn asked if this land could be donated to the Park Commission at the Annual meeting?

Supervisor Krueger stated that there may be a certain % to overturn the prior decision of the Town's people to reverse the sale of the Town land. We will have to find out more about this.

A Town resident requested that this question be placed on the ballot as a referendum question for all the town residents to vote on.

III. ADJOURNMENT

At 8:17 p.m., MOTION: Supervisor Jurgensen, second Supervisor Krueger to adjourn the special Town Board/Park Commission meeting. Motion carried unanimously, with Supervisor Sprague excused.

Carl Gardner stated that he was a Teacher in the area. He and a group of developers are interested in this land to build an indoor athletic building. This sports center could be open 12 months out of the year and have sports activities for the youth of the area.

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

Mary R. Heiting

Deputy Clerk